. >> he is just a man -- by the way, mika, let's talk donald trump and ask if he will do that the next four years. >> the commentary about the president's address yesterday and none of it talks about the fact he's an african-american president, all about what did he say and agenda and his policies and not his race. that's how far we've come in four years. it was stunning how normal it was, completely unremarkable. >> my hope was, al, that we would get to a point in america, even though i voted against him two times, you can vote against the man on his policies and still celebrate what this country has become. it's remarkable! i was always hoping that barack obama would reach the point where he was judged as a president who happened to be an african-american, like margaret thatcher was judged as a politician, who happened to be a woman. i think we're there now. i think that says a lot about this country. >> i do, too. i think that's the story of america. it happens sometimes, it happ s happens, very difficult but it clearly has happened now. two of my very very favorite columnists are m